Geen Alfa Romeo-motoren voor Toro Rosso

lijkt me niet het geval.

Ze hebben vorig jaar zowel Force India als Sauber achter zich gelaten die met resp. een Mercedes en Ferrari reden. Ik denk dat Torro Rosso ook met een sterkere motor niet voorbij RBR komt.

Schijnbaar staat TR hoger op de ladder als Sauber en Haas.

Ja man, als ze het even iets eerder hadden laten weten, had Duits Sterretje die paar eurootjes extra wel even kunnen geven.

Ja tuurlijk en als iedereen hier op F1today allemaal een treetje Red Bull zou kopen hadden de kansen voor Max dit seizoen een stuk groter geweest om in de top mee te draaien.
Pfff 30 miljoen,waar hebben we 't over.

Het blijkt heel duur te zijn om op het motorblok, de naam Ferrari te verwijderen, en Alfa Romeo er op te zetten.

Ik denk dat ze dat geld hadden gekregen van Alfa Romeo, en dat Alfa Romeo geen zin had in die 30 miljoen extra kosten.

Hmmmm... 10% willen ze verkopen om de waarde van Ferrari te bepalen...
Hierna worden de rest van de FCA aandelen verkocht aan de huidige aandeelhouders (ja die kopen inwezen hun eigen bedrijf) en 10 % blijft in handen van Aldo Ferrari

Pierro bedoel ik natuurlijk

Jij kijkt zeker pas een paar jaar F1? Anders had je geweten dat het totdat BMW Sauber overnam zeer vaak voorkwam dat een sponsor de naam van de motor bepaalde. Sauber heette tot de overname Sauber Petronas en reed met een Petronas V10/V8. En dat was natuurlijk geen Petronas maar een Ferrari motor. Arrows reed op een gegeven moment met een Arrows motor wat als ik me niet vergis een oude Hart motor was. Minardi reed op een gegeven moment met Supertec. Dat was een Renault motor. Benetton reed ooit met Mechachrome, dat was ook een Renault motor. Maar het Mechachrome verhaal is nog iets anders. Renault ontwerpt de motor en Mechachrome(Ja ook vandaag de dag nog) bouwt en ontwikkeld de motor verder.

en dan waren er nog de "Acer" motoren van Prost(ook gewoon Ferrari's) en de Asiatech motoren van Arrows en Minardi(doorontwikkelde Peugeot motoren)

@Rammsteinfan,
Kijk waarschijnlijk langer dan jij en je vergeet Ilmor/ mercedes. Ik bedoel ermee dat ook al zet je er een andere naam op, het blijft een Renault (die gebrekkig was in 2015)

@ Rammstein my buddy!

Laat je niet afbluffen door een part time fan die voor het eerst in een paar maanden weer de wijsneus gaat uithangen. ;)

...."Laat je niet afbluffen door een part time fan die voor het eerst in een paar maanden weer de wijsneus gaat uithangen. ;)"......
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Klinkt als bronstige territoriumdrift??

TOMASK250282 & RAMMSTEINFAN DE : DOE IETS!!! Of laten julie je afbluffen????

Ze mogen opnieuw gehomologeerd worden maar wordt daarmee voor de FIA geen nieuwe motor als die reeds door een andere fabrikant eerder is gehomologeerd. De tokens zijn gekoppeld aan de fabrikant van de motor en niet de juridische eigenaar. Een nieuwe motorfabrikant dient voor de toetreding op diverse momenten de FIA over diverse zaken in te lichten en rapporten overhandigen.

www.fia.com/file/3(...)load?token=nmuz5dKl

www.fia.com/regula(...)ld-championship-110

Punt 2.
A power unit may be homologated for one season only, starting on 28 February of each year and ending on 27 February of the following year. Any manufacturer who homologated (Ferrari dus en niet ALFA!) a power unit during the 2014-2020 period may re-homologate this power unit prior to the 28 February of each subsequent year. Further modifications may be approved in accordance with the table in Appendix 4 of the F1 Technical Regulations. Details of all modifications must be included in a dossier supplied to the FIA 14 days prior to re-homologation. The manufacturer must hold a complete power unit to this specification in a container sealed by the FIA prior to the 28 February of the year of re-homologation.


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2016-2020 POWER UNIT HOMOLOGATION

1) An homologated power unit must include all the parts described as “INC” in the “App. 4 Sporting regs.” column of Appendix 2 of the F1 Technical Regulations.

2) A power unit may be homologated for one season only, starting on 28 February of each year and ending on 27 February of the following year. Any manufacturer who homologated a power unit during the 2014-2020 period may re-homologate this power unit prior to the 28 February of each subsequent year. Further modifications may be approved in accordance with the table in Appendix 4 of the F1 Technical Regulations. Details of all modifications must be included in a dossier supplied to the FIA 14 days prior to re-homologation. The manufacturer must hold a complete power unit to this specification in a container sealed by the FIA prior to the 28 February of the year of re-homologation.

3) Any manufacturer intending to homologate a new power unit during the 2016-2020 period must provide the FIA with full details of the power unit on or before 28 February of the year of homologation. The FIA must be satisfied, at its absolute discretion, that such a power unit could fairly and equitably be allowed to compete with other homologated power units. Details of the above power unit must be included in a dossier supplied to the FIA 14 days prior to the date of homologation. The manufacturer must hold a complete power unit to this specification in a container sealed by the FIA prior to the 28 February of the year of homologation.

4) Other than any parts agreed by the FIA at their absolute discretion to be solely associated with power unit installation with different teams, each manufacturer may supply only one specification of homologated power unit during any given calendar year, subject to any changes permitted by the FIA in accordance with the procedure set out in 2) above and 5) below.

5) A manufacturer may apply to the FIA during the course of the homologation period to carry out modifications to their homologated power unit for the sole purposes of reliability, safety, cost-saving. Applications must be made in writing to the FIA Technical Department and must provide all necessary supporting information including, where appropriate, clear evidence of failures. The FIA will circulate the correspondence to all manufacturers for comment. If the FIA is satisfied, in its absolute discretion, that these changes are acceptable, they will confirm to the manufacturer concerned that they may be carried out.

6) Any manufacturer who homologated a power unit during the 2014-2020 period may also apply to the FIA to re-use such a power unit in a given team, to the same specification, and without going through the re-homologation process described above. The FIA must be satisfied, at its absolute discretion, that such a power unit could fairly and equitably be allowed to compete with other homologated power units.

7) All power units must be delivered such that the seals required under Article 23.4 can be fitted. Both the manufacturer and users of a homologated power unit must take whatever steps are required at any time by the FIA, in its absolute discretion, to demonstrate that a power unit used at an Event is identical to the corresponding power unit held as required by either paragraphs 2, 3 or 4 above.

Omdat RBR dan Ferrari voorbij zou rijden met hun veeeel betere chassis ;)

inderdaad, angst van Ferrari....

Mocht niet van Arrivabene.

Zie mijn reactie zou ik willen zeggen. Maar die is nog niet door de keuring zie ik.

Ze mogen opnieuw gehomologeerd worden maar wordt daarmee voor de FIA geen nieuwe motor als die reeds door een andere fabrikant eerder is gehomologeerd. De tokens zijn gekoppeld aan de fabrikant van de motor en niet de juridische eigenaar. Een nieuwe motorfabrikant dient voor de toetreding op diverse momenten de FIA over diverse zaken in te lichten en rapporten overhandigen.

www.fia.com/file/3(...)load?token=nmuz5dKl

www.fia.com/regula(...)ld-championship-110

Punt 2.
A power unit may be homologated for one season only, starting on 28 February of each year and ending on 27 February of the following year. Any manufacturer who homologated (Ferrari dus en niet ALFA!) a power unit during the 2014-2020 period may re-homologate this power unit prior to the 28 February of each subsequent year. Further modifications may be approved in accordance with the table in Appendix 4 of the F1 Technical Regulations. Details of all modifications must be included in a dossier supplied to the FIA 14 days prior to re-homologation. The manufacturer must hold a complete power unit to this specification in a container sealed by the FIA prior to the 28 February of the year of re-homologation.


Pagina 46:

2016-2020 POWER UNIT HOMOLOGATION

1) An homologated power unit must include all the parts described as “INC” in the “App. 4 Sporting regs.” column of Appendix 2 of the F1 Technical Regulations.

2) A power unit may be homologated for one season only, starting on 28 February of each year and ending on 27 February of the following year. Any manufacturer who homologated a power unit during the 2014-2020 period may re-homologate this power unit prior to the 28 February of each subsequent year. Further modifications may be approved in accordance with the table in Appendix 4 of the F1 Technical Regulations. Details of all modifications must be included in a dossier supplied to the FIA 14 days prior to re-homologation. The manufacturer must hold a complete power unit to this specification in a container sealed by the FIA prior to the 28 February of the year of re-homologation.

3) Any manufacturer intending to homologate a new power unit during the 2016-2020 period must provide the FIA with full details of the power unit on or before 28 February of the year of homologation. The FIA must be satisfied, at its absolute discretion, that such a power unit could fairly and equitably be allowed to compete with other homologated power units. Details of the above power unit must be included in a dossier supplied to the FIA 14 days prior to the date of homologation. The manufacturer must hold a complete power unit to this specification in a container sealed by the FIA prior to the 28 February of the year of homologation.

4) Other than any parts agreed by the FIA at their absolute discretion to be solely associated with power unit installation with different teams, each manufacturer may supply only one specification of homologated power unit during any given calendar year, subject to any changes permitted by the FIA in accordance with the procedure set out in 2) above and 5) below.

5) A manufacturer may apply to the FIA during the course of the homologation period to carry out modifications to their homologated power unit for the sole purposes of reliability, safety, cost-saving. Applications must be made in writing to the FIA Technical Department and must provide all necessary supporting information including, where appropriate, clear evidence of failures. The FIA will circulate the correspondence to all manufacturers for comment. If the FIA is satisfied, in its absolute discretion, that these changes are acceptable, they will confirm to the manufacturer concerned that they may be carried out.

6) Any manufacturer who homologated a power unit during the 2014-2020 period may also apply to the FIA to re-use such a power unit in a given team, to the same specification, and without going through the re-homologation process described above. The FIA must be satisfied, at its absolute discretion, that such a power unit could fairly and equitably be allowed to compete with other homologated power units.

7) All power units must be delivered such that the seals required under Article 23.4 can be fitted. Both the manufacturer and users of a homologated power unit must take whatever steps are required at any time by the FIA, in its absolute discretion, to demonstrate that a power unit used at an Event is identical to the corresponding power unit held as required by either paragraphs 2, 3 or 4 above.

De 2015 pu moet zowizo opnieuw gehomologeerd worden anders zou STR de gehomologeerde motor uit februari 2015 moeten gebruiken in plaats van de met tokens gewijzigde motor uit november 2015.